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Battery Pack #3 : Tesla

Written by chivey on July 8, 2026 Tags: Uncategorized
ConfigCellsV/CellPackCapacityTotalWeight30 mph60 mph
AGM1212v144v138 Ah19.9 kWh1200 lbs43.6 mi25.7 mi
GBS483.2v153.6v100 Ah15.3 kWh370 lbs48.5 mi29.0 mi
Tesla622.8v136.8v242 Ah31.5 kWh330 lbs96.7 mi56.0 mi

Legal

Written by chivey on July 5, 2026 Tags: Uncategorized

Building a EV is great, but you must ensure you are legal otherwise this will all be a waste of time.

1. Insurance

Most companies will offer “liability only” insurance, i.e. everyone else is covered, you will not get anything for the car if it stolen/burnt/attacked by riotous mob/etc. Not good…

I currently have Geico covering my regular cars and they were very happy to offer for $200/6months increase to extend liability coverage to the electric bus.

The main alternative is “Classic” insurance, which known as “agreed value” – the problem here is most companies (I have another VW covered by Hagerty) will not insure you for daily driver (i.e. commuting) – this leaves you in limbo… The policy you need is called “stated value” here a local office or friend is what you need. I have friend at State Farm who sorted out a plan. I have to provide receipts for the conversion work and proof that the vehicle is street legal.

2. Tags

Initially I registered the vehicle with a standard tag. Following an inspection by GEFA which allows you claim the Georgia state tax credit for converted ZEV (zero emission vehicle) you need that inspection document to take to the tag office, with the original tag and AFV registration form.

The AFV tag allow you to use the HOV lanes with only 1 passenger, very useful for the airport run.

3. Tax Credits

a. Federal tax credit

IRS Form 8910 – 10% federal tax credit for converted vehicles (up to $4000)

b. Georgia state tax credit

I live in Georgia so there are some special codes just for this state, for 2009 the applicable code entry is: GA Code 48-7-40.16 Income tax credits for low-emission vehicles – an additional 10% state tax credit for converted vehicles (up to $2500)

This does require an inspection to prove the vehicle is zero emission and that it is capable of highway speeds.

c. Filing

The federal return does not require you submit anything more than the 8910 form which can be done through e-file. I used turbotax (which is aware of both the federal and Georgia tax credits).

However the Georgia state does require send in the paper certification which cannot be e-filed, so it mail in return.

Links

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StealthBus in the media:

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/localnews/headlines/Couple_plans_green_work_day_104542669.html

http://www.examiner.com/gwinnett-county-democrat-in-atlanta/the-chave-family-saving-the-plant-one-global-work-party-at-a-time

StealthBus on forums:

http://www.evalbum.com/2133

http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?p=138913

http://www.diyelectriccar.com/garage/cars/196

http://georgiadubs.forumotion.net/stockornaut-f21/the-stealth-bus-t2147.htm

Great EV links:

http://www.evalbum.com – photos and details of other projects for inspiration

http://www.diyelectriccar.com – very good forum for ~EVer’s, useful information and discussion, I am “chivey”

http://www.evconvert.com/tools/evcalc/ – extremely useful calculators to estimate your vehicle

Components / Datasheets / Manuals:

http://www.go-ev.com/WarP.html#WarP_9 – Warfield electric ~WarP 9 motor

http://www.evsource.com/datasheets/logisystems/users_manual.pdf – Logisystems user manual

http://www.cdpowercom.com/product/battery/vrla/pdf/mr12_490.pdf – C&D Technologies AGM battery

http://www.evsource.com/datasheets/braking_system/vacuum_kit.pdf – Vacuum brake kit

http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=893&osCsid=cf78aef068dc74ad19a42afa585e5245 – PIC uP kit for prototype BMS

http://relays.tycoelectronics.com/datasheets/LEV200_ds_9-1773439-1.pdf – ~LEV200 contactor

http://www.datasheetdir.com/V23234-A1001-X036+Solid-State-Relays – “Bosch” relay used for all secondary circuits

http://www.westach.com – gauges for Amps and Volts

http://www.saveabattery.com – aux battery charger (100-240v input voltage)

Workshop:

http://www.stockornaut.com – VW restoration shop

EV suppliers:

http://www.grassrootsev.com – brought the Motor and Controller from here

http://www.evsource.com – brought the vacuum booster for the Brakes and some of the very large lugs from here

http://www.kta-ev.com – brought various components; circuit breaker, voltmeters, ammeter, shunt, second contactor and lugs

http://www.revoltevc.com – brought Charger, primary cables (6, 2/0 and 4/0) and boots from here

http://www.evolveelectrics.com – brought Lithium pack and BMS

http://www.cloudelectric.com

http://www.e-volks.com

http://www.electroauto.com

http://www.evamerica.com

http://www.evparts.com

evcomponents.com (now defunct) – brought replacement contactors

VW info:

http://www.ratwell.com – awesome site with great info

VW parts suppliers:

http://www.busdepot.com – ordered various interior parts, lens and brake components from here

http://www.bus-boys.com – ordered dash panel for gauges from here

http://www.socalautoparts.com – ordered replacement axles from here

http://www.mamotorworks.com – ordered sliding windows from here

Other resources:

http://www.cadsoftusa.com – schematic capture package

Web resources:

http://www.tiddlywiki.com – a very useful single page wiki engine used to build this site

http://tiddlythemes.com/#Blackicity – wiki theme used for this site + with my own (very) minor tweaks 🙂

2024 02 29

Written by chivey on February 29, 2024 Tags: Uncategorized

Primer going on

2024 02 14

Written by chivey on February 14, 2024 Tags: Uncategorized

Not all the bus was metal…

2021 05 31

Written by chivey on May 31, 2021 Tags: Uncategorized

3D model of new RPi based head unit.

3D model of new RPi based head unit.

2021 05 30

Written by chivey on May 30, 2021 Tags: Uncategorized

Stealthy got to top of hill and then shutdown… seems that at some point in the past the DC-DC inlet fuse blew and so for last few trips the aux battery has been slowly running out… it finally hit 9.5v and the main controller decided that was not quite enough…

Troublemaker

Totally safe… spare-aux setup to get home…

2021 05 10

Written by chivey on May 10, 2021 Tags: Uncategorized

Stealthy out from winter storage… run a bunch diagnostics on the pack… ending up removing 4 cells from the pack. Cells #40 and #48 were really not working right. Now running 44s1p configuration… adjusted soliton config accordingly. Need to adjust the BMS settings. Seems the GBS 100Ah cells just sag really badly. Can’t see them actually achieving 3C discharge. Have enough trouble getting to 1C. Will try running them again for the summer and see what happens…

2018 07 31

Written by chivey on July 31, 2018 Tags: Uncategorized

Cell #48, cleaned, crimped a new lug on the cable, liberally coated in NOOXID…. end result Voltage sag+Thermal rise… same as before – Bugger!

Mobile uploads

Mobile uploads

2018 07 10

Written by chivey on July 10, 2018 Tags: Uncategorized

New Toy…

New Toy...