Category | Battery

Pack #1 – Lead sled

Written by chivey on July 5, 2026 Tags: Battery

UPDATE: Second pack deliberations… Lithium pack

The part of the project that arguably could make or break it. I have thought up two approaches to this issue:

#Buy the cheapest off the shelf batteries in Costco and experiment – run a series of on road tests and get and idea of range / capacity in the real world. From here I would have useful stats about increasing power / range.

#Buy high end batteries (Trojan look good) then put some real effort into getting the battery design right – and try to get right first time.

!!!Option 1, Costco batteries

Costco have a 12v / 115Ah Marine / Deep cycle battery for $84 – trying to determine the OEM so I can run the numbers with evconvert calculator.

Useful web link: http://www.evconvert.com/tools/evcalc/?s=b

Using 12 batteries = $1008 + GA sales tax (6%)

Brought 2 x Costco batteries purchased for measurements / experimentation

!!!Option 2, Using Trojan 6V

Requires 24 batteries @ $130 / each = $3,120

The most important consideration with the batteries is the potential range. I have settled on 144v in the previous discussion about controller and motor. Using 144v will drive using either 12 x 12v, 18 x 8v or 24 x 6v for the battery configuration.

!!!Option 3, C&D Technologies (Dynasty UPS) – “Max Rate”

David offered option for a set of 12 second hand C&D Technologies AGM cell.

Battery specifications:

12v, AGM, 138Ah capacity

http://www.cdpowercom.com/product/battery/vrla/pdf/mr12_490.pdf

Getting their first charge…

Planned layout


battery-layout-B.pdf

!!!State of charge calculations

|!Charge|!Volts per battery|!Pack voltage|

|100%|12.65+|152|

|75%|12.45|149|

|50%|12.24|147|

|25%|12.06|144|

|0%|11.85|142|

!!!Battery log / management system

Battery log – Manual measurements of battery voltages before and after various trips.

BMS – Design and work to build a automatic monitoring systems

!!!Journal entries

2009 08 11 – Took delivery of 12 x C & D Technology, Dynasty Series, “Max Rate” AGM batteries

2009 08 12 – Rigged up a parallel charging harness and to allow a low rate charge (2A) using a standard automatic charger (on AGM setting.)

2009 10 19 – Battery racks in place

Battery log

Written by chivey on  Tags: Battery

!!!Battery log

|Date|>|2/11|>|3/14|>|3/20|4/25|>|4/26|4/28|5/22|

|Distance|>|10mi|>|23.8mi|>|34mi| |>|10mil| | |

BatteryStart (v)End (v)End (v)Charged (v)End (v)Charged (v)Charged (v)End (v)Charged (v)Charged (v)Charged (v)
Pack154.4148.0144.2154.5143.4155.3154.5150.4155.3155.9154.8
112.812.312.0512.9111.9812.9712.9112.5712.9713.0212.92
212.912.312.1012.9512.0313.0012.8712.6113.0013.0512.94
312.912.312.0712.9812.0012.9812.9212.5912.9813.0212.92
412.812.312.0012.8711.9312.9312.8812.5412.9312.9912.89
512.912.312.0112.9211.9712.9712.9212.5712.9813.0312.99
612.912.312.0712.9312.0012.9812.9312.5712.9913.0312.93
712.812.211.9912.8511.9312.9112.8612.5312.9212.9812.89
812.712.211.8812.7311.9212.8912.8312.4812.8812.9312.82
912.812.312.0712.9012.0012.9512.9112.5312.9713.0212.92
1012.812.211.9612.8311.8712.8812.8212.5412.8812.9312.82
1112.812.312.0512.8311.9712.9512.8912.4312.9513.0112.90
1212.712.211.9112.7711.8312.8312.7812.4712.8412.9012.88

!!!Watt/mile

|Date|12/16|3/15|3/20|3/21|3/25|4/26|4/27|4/28|

|Distance (miles)|26|23.8|34|34|26|10|10|15|

|Charge (kWh)|12.2|11.62|13.9|11.7|11.59|4.18|4.3|6.2|

|Watts/mile|469|488|408|344|445|418|430|413|

!!!Battery layout

| | |6|

|7| |5|

|8| |4|

|9| front ->> | |

|10| | |

|11| |3|

|12| |2|

| | |1|

|Cargo door|>|>|

BMS

Written by chivey on  Tags: Battery

Lithiumate Lite. Dedicated EV BMS with some very nice integrations.

User manual:

http://elithion.com/lithiumate-lite.php#Manual

http://lite.elithion.com/

Tied the warning lamp to the “Gen” lamp on dash, so I get early warning of potential issues.

SOC output is connect to fuel gauge on dash, so I get 20%-100% aligned to E – F on the gauge. Never want to go below 20% SoC, but nice to know I have a couple of “limp” miles even at E.

My legacy BMS (Home brew) is being upgraded – same principle but using Raspberry Pi reading the serial port of the Lithiumate.

2012 02 29

Written by chivey on February 29, 2012 Tags: Battery

Ordered 48 of GBS 100Ah, they come complete with bus bars, straps and handles. They are pre mounted as blocks of 4 cells (12.8v nominal).

Also ordered a Lithiumate Lite BMS to match the set. http://elithion.com/lithiumate-lite.php

From http://www.evolveelectrics.com

Also ordered a Acme ~DC-DC convertor to eliminate voltage sag while driving with all the lights and “accessories” on…